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STEVE FLAHERTY, VIRGINIA STATE POLICE SUPERINTENDENT: Recovered two weapons, a 9mm handgun as well as a .There's no evidence at this time to suggest that Cho left behind any type of a suicide note.And there are many questions that still need to be answered tonight.Former LAPD Detective Mark Fuhrman.Jon Lieberman is with us from "America's Most Wanted" and forensic pathologist Dr.MARK FUHRMAN, FORMER LAPD DETECTIVE: Well, when you look at it, I don't think it was a surprise.Yesterday on John Gibson's radio show we had the time to actually open up this dialogue a little bit.And I said I wouldn't be surprised if this guy was on antidepressants, which would add to all the other symptoms; the reason he was on antidepressants.What did he hear from this man?HANNITY: John, on "America's Most Wanted", you look into the backgrounds of a lot of people that are committing these crimes.JON LIEBERMAN, "AMERICAN MOST WANTED": Well, absolutely Sean.It was almost like he had a story written, and he wanted to be the star in his own tragedy of sorts.And you know, it's like what was reported on FOX News earlier today.One law enforcement source told us today that what shocked him the most was that in life, this guy Cho was so stoic and calculating and calm.Just methodically going room to room, reloading the guns and shooting.What would be some of the things you'd be looking for, Dr.And I think, from the medical examiner's point, they're going to be looking very carefully.And fortunately, Virginia has one of the best medical examiner symptoms in the country.They're going to be looking for whether there were any drugs on board.The hair can help with that, also.And also whether there were any diseases that he might have.So there are a lot we'll learn from the medical examiner's office about the decedent in addition to going back over his past history.The professor who is Carolyn Rude, the chairwoman of the university's English department, she's the one that said that the writing was so disturbing that she referred him to the university's counseling service.GERALDO RIVERA, FOX NEWS: You know, in my opinion, Sean, it's very difficult to make a judgment about these freaks on the basis of what they write or whether they're loners.Mark probably is onto something.Was he being monitored on this medication?What was his relationship to his own parents?Did the counselor, indeed, follow through after he was referred to the counselor because of things that set off red flags?Or to this man, who was in the band and, you know, a lovely person, a resident advisor.This is really what the issue is.Lucinda Roy, says she notified authorities about him.FUHRMAN: Well, Alan, look, she teaches thousands of students, and she singles this one man out and says there's a problem.And I think the police, as they said before, they would love to take care of this person.They would love to put him in an institution.And this is the outcome.This is not a law enforcement issue.RIVERA: I would argue a lot about that.And in the darkest moment, in the history of this university, the world saw you and saw you respond in a way that built community.COLMES: We now continue with our panel.Jon Lieberman, you know, I guess we're all struggling to make sense of this.And we have a personality profile.Alan, the toughest part about these mass murder cases is, in most cases these guys are such cowards that they end up killing themselves or they do suicide by cop, where cops kill them.So police can never really question them to get into their minds in terms of what leads up to this.And that's why, Alan, what police are doing right now is so important to kind of build that profile.Right now they're going through his hard drive, going through his writings, all of his computers, all of his documents.What were some of the issues?This could have led to this.And, Alan, as a law enforcement source told me tonight, there is some sort of evidence that Cho had shot one of these guns before.Did he go out and do target practice preparing for his big day?People like this don't just snap.So, there may be a couple of days in between or a couple weeks, a couple months.And mass murders and serial murders are almost always premeditated, planned.It's a spur of the moment and often is not planned.HANNITY: Hey, Mark Fuhrman, in your mind, where does the investigation need to go from here?And he obviously was not truthful on two of those boxes when he filled them in to get the gun.You know, does anybody know?Did anybody know and did anybody discuss this with Cho at any time?Virginia can buy a firearm.LIEBERMAN: The second weapon as long as you wait 30 days.Colmes" weeknights at 9 p.Copy: Content and Programming Copyright 2007 Fox News Network, LLC.No license is granted to the user of this material except for the user's personal or internal use and, in such case, only one copy may be printed, nor shall user use any material for commercial purposes or in any fashion that may infringe upon Fox News 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lockdown.Within a minute, the officers breached the doors, which had been chained shut from the inside.Once inside the building, the officers heard gunshots.They followed the succession of gunshots to the second floor.University officials announce the campus has been secured, but the magnitude of the tragedy was just becoming clear.FLINCHUM: We have a ballpark figure on fatalities.It's at least 20 fatalities.KING: And, yet, as the day wore on, the death toll would only grow.There are two confirmed deaths from the shooting in Ambler Johnston dormitory, in addition to the 31 at Norris Hall.KING: A staggering loss of life that left the university community wondering, why?MICHAEL NELSON, VIRGINIA TECH STUDENT: It seems really senseless.To help us try to clear up some of the this, CNN's Brianna Keilar is here.BRIANNA KEILAR, CNN CORRESPONDENT: Well, certainly a lot more questions than answers at this point.Police say they spoke with a person of interest, and that that person is still a person of interest, but they're not in police custody.Meanwhile, they have preliminarily identified the gunman, who killed himself after, it appears, killing 31 other people in Norris Hall, across campus.Also, at this point, it appears they just don't have a definitive link through evidence or eyewitness testimony.And they're also trying to sort through ballistic evidence from one crime scene to another.But, certainly, John, students here do think the two are very linked.But have they said anything publicly who that shooter is?KEILAR: No, they're not releasing that information.Why did the police allow people to come on to this campus, allow classes to be held all across this sprawling campus, when they knew two people were dead and the shooter was still at large?KEILAR: That's certainly enraging many students.It was less than 20 minutes later, at 9:45, when the first reports came of that second shooting.The student I spoke with said, why wasn't the campus shut down?Why weren't we alerted earlier?We could have been more vigilant.We could have stayed indoors.KING: And you hear all these rumors, as you would in a situation like this.The police, though, not giving you much, are they?But, then, later, they were asked, was this perhaps the gunman's girlfriend?And they said, no, they did not believe that it was.In the later briefing, any information on why they made that assumption, what evidence they had to believe the shooter was not on campus to defend their decision, of course, not to lock this place down earlier on?But they did say they thought it was domestic in nature.They thought it was isolated.KING: Thank you very much.And police have not released any of the victims' identities.That is one of the questions tonight.The police say they will not do that until all the families are identified.He reportedly was one of two people shot and killed in the dormitory early this morning.ERIN SHEEHAN, VIRGINIA TECH STUDENT: He just stepped within five feet of the door and just started firing.MATTINGLY: Apparently familiar with the building where he inflicted so much pain, the killer chained at least two doors, effectively blocking key exits from the building.After his spree, the killer took his own life.I'm not prepared released to release yet.But the investigation is ongoing.MATTINGLY: A law enforcement source close to the investigation tells CNN two weapons were recovered, two handguns, one .KARINA PORUSHKEVICH, VIRGINIA TECH STUDENT: It was very, very saddening.KING: And David Mattingly joining us here live now on the campus.David, why is it that the police took so long, in your view, according to your sources, to even say that they knew who the shooter was?MATTINGLY: Well, when the shooter finally turned the gun on himself, when the police were able to get up to, him and check his body, they were not able to find any kind of I.He didn't have anything on him.And, because this is such a big case, they want to be careful what kind of information they put out there, make sure they have exactly what they are supposed to have, and correct information before they do go public.It was a traumatic day, of course, for everyone here at Virginia Tech, those who go to school on campus.Amie Steele is the editor in chief of the paper.AMIE STEELE, EDITOR IN CHIEF, "THE COLLEGIATE TIMES": Hi.KING: Take us through your day.So, from there, I contacted our news editors and some reporters and got them out on campus.KING: At that point, when you say you had it verified, was that the first shooting, at 7:15 a.So, we had reporters on the scene at A.STEELE: What we have been hearing all day is basically that what the school administrators are saying is that they didn't, at the time, think that the shootings were necessarily linked.They thought that it was a domestic dispute between a girlfriend and a boyfriend.And, so, they thought that they had it contained.They thought they had it under control.They thought they had the gunman within the building, and he wasn't escaping.And, then, hours later, the second shooting happened.So, they felt like it wasn't necessary to let the school know.That's what we're hearing at this time.There was an incident at the beginning of the year.STEELE: I would feel that it is very safe here.He shot two security guard and a police officer.Both instances were off campus.I'm not sure that that's absolutely correct.So, I do feel like it is safe.And it's just crazy to think about such a small town, and all of this happens within eight months of each other.It's quite a farm of satellite trucks here on campus tonight, people coming in who are not as familiar with this place as you are.And we're also wondering if these are at all tied to the bomb threats that have happened in the past two weeks.So, it left a huge impact now.And I feel like this is an even bigger tragedy, an even bigger instance that happened.So, I'm sure this will be something that lasts here for years to come.And I feel like that's probably what will happen again.STEELE: Thank you for having me.No, thank you for joining us.KING: Thank you very much.He joins us now live on 360.Well, at about 8:30 or so, my R.The other side is girls.And, from then, he got everybody out of their rooms.And we were there for about an hour.And, so, we were there until about 9:30.And then we were notified about an hour later that an incident did happen involving two people in West Ambler Johnston on the fourth floor.Forgive me for interrupting you.But you're in the dormitory, where this happened.You keep saying an incident.None of that was passed on to you?KING: Do you know the victims?PORTER: I have heard that he was going to graduate with three degrees.They won't connect the two (INAUDIBLE) But, in your view, as a precaution, given that there had been a shooting, and the shooter was at large, should this campus have been shut down?Thank you so much for your time tonight.At least 20 people were shot and survived.Coming up, we will get the latest on their conditions.He came in, eventually later.And he just stepped within five feet of the door and just started firing.At least when we left, only four of us left.She's just back from that vigil.One of the reasons we were able to see is that some of the windows in that building are broken out.It would be a candlelight vigil but the wind here is so tremendously strong the candles keep blowing out.Students are putting their names and thoughts on that big symbol of this school, also into a memory book.We spoke to one of the students who knew one of the few victims that's been identified here, Ryan Clark.He was the resident adviser who was shot this morning in one of the dormitories.Here is what she had to say.One little bit of irony I should mention, John, is that this memorial has been set up in the shadow of the war memorial here on the campus of Virginia Tech where, of course, they honor those who have fallen in battle, students of Virginia Tech who have fallen in battle.Here, today, of course honoring those who have fallen under very different circumstances.KING: We want to update you now on the survivors of the shooting spree here at the Virginia Tech campus.But down the street at the hospital, where most of the injured were brought, administrators say they were prepared.We were working with the EMS community and the other local health care providers to make sure that all those patients' needs were met.TUCHMAN: Seventeen patients rushed to Montgomery Regional Hospital in Blacksburg.One was pronounced dead on arrival, three are in critical condition, six stable, and five were discharged.He just started shooting, didn't say anything.Bob Allison is a Virginia Tech senior who visited his wounded friend, Kevin.TUCHMAN: Allison says his friend was in German class when he was shot twice.ALLISON: The guy came in and had started shooting.TUCHMAN: Bob Allison says his friend is in intensive care but his prognosis is good.TUCHMAN (on camera): Does he know just how bad this turned out to be for so many other students?ALLISON: We haven't really talked to him about how big it got.TUCHMAN: Did anyone tell you not to mention that to him?KING: And Gary Tuchman joins us live now, continuing his vigil at the hospital.Gary, how specific is the hospital being tonight about the nature of the injuries it's dealing with?TUCHMAN: Obviously, John, with three critically injured patients we're concerned that the death toll could possibly climb.We asked that question to the CEO of the hospital, and he said he just doesn't want to talk about it.He doesn't want to characterize the nature of the injuries, to protect the confidentiality of the patients.TUCHMAN: The CEO of the hospital says they were.There were 32 people who were killed.They obviously wish that more injured were brought here, because that would have meant that fewer people died.We'll hear from the student who used his cell phone to bring the story to the world.The president called the president of the university, also spoke to the governor of Virginia, promising any federal assistance with the investigation.I'm going to say it, but he was using the "F" word and he was telling us to get off the ground.And when a professor starts to use this language, you would know that there is something really serious.But I just left the building and went back.While I was walking, I saw a cop running around and he saw other cops.He drew his gun from his pocket or from the gun's pocket and just started running towards the other cops.And then they both started running towards Norris Hall.Norris Hall trying to talk to the people outside, to the police officers outside Norris Hall.He was talking to them through the window.KING: That's Jamal Albarghouti, a student here, a remarkable student who recorded some of the scene on his cell phone, speaking earlier tonight to CNN's Larry King.Get the download at CNN.In fact, experts say college campus shootings are very, very different.Also, what we're learning tonight about the weapons involved, how a pair of handguns proved so deadly in the hands of a determined killer.That angle when this special edition of 360 continues.CHIEF WENDELL FLINCHUM, VIRGINIA TECH POLICE: This is a tragic, tragic event.KING: That's the chief of the Virginia Tech Police Department, a department facing so many questions tonight, about whether these two shootings on campus, two horrific shootings today are linked and whether that department made a tragic mistake in not locking down and closing this campus after the first shooting at 7:15 this morning.Now we want to get a closer look tonight, though, at the weapons that took the lives of the victims here on campus.With that, here's CNN's Tom Foreman.UNIDENTIFIED MALE: I heard shots fired, and I saw everyone running across the drill field.UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Someone opened the door, and it sounded like the shots were being fired down the hallway.FOREMAN: It is an easily used weapon.Each pull of the trigger fires a shot and chambers the next bullet.FOREMAN (on camera): So if you have this entire clip in here of 15 shots and you have one in the magazine, how quickly could you shoot all 16?WATSON: In a second or less you could shoot all of these rounds.FOREMAN: So what about reloading, then?FOREMAN: But it has also been lionized in movies and music as the criminal's weapon of choice.It is the most commonly used crime gun.MIKE BROOKS, SECURITY ANALYST: You can get just about any gun company, any company to that manufactures guns usually have some kind of .WATSON: No, it's not that small.It's a little bit smaller than a .FOREMAN: And it will pack a real punch?BROOKS: You can be just as dead with a .FOREMAN: Now, both of the guns believed to be used in these shootings are in the hands of investigators, who are being asked how they got into the hands of this killer.KING: So many horrific details coming into our CNN team across this campus tonight, stories of students jumping out of windows to try to avoid the shooters, stories of a janitor who says the shooter aimed directly at him before he ran off.We may never know exactly what provoked the Virginia Tech gunman's deadly massacre.But where it happened may be the biggest clue.What experts says it biggest difference between college and high school shootings, 360 next.GRAPHIC: In a recent survey of high school students: About 6 percent of students said they had carried a weapon to school in the last month.But high school students aren't college students, and as tempting as it might be to compare to today's massacre here at Virginia Tech with Columbine, there's a very real danger in doing that.Criminologists say high school students often kill because they're angry at fellow students.At Virginia Tech, one criminologist says, an overwhelming sense of failure and rejection by a girlfriend may be why the killer opened fire.They're not part of the cool crowd.And they decide to get even with the bullies and the nasty teachers, with a gun.It's failure at school, it's failure in relationships; nothing is going right.The girlfriend has been unfair.And they don't see themselves as criminals.KAYE: Like Gang Lu from the University of Iowa.More than a decade ago in what's now called the Gang Lu massacre, he shot and killed five people and wounded one before taking his own life.DON JOHNSON, WORKED WITH SHOOTER: He probably saw that his options were very limited, that this award was going to make the difference of whether he was going to succeed in life or not.KAYE: And in 1989 a male student at the University of Montreal, angry there were so many women in class, opened fire.The gunman ordered male engineering students to leave, then killed 14 women before shooting himself.And we were about 20 people, and we were hiding behind a concrete wall.And indeed, how much more control and power can you imagine than someone who goes on a rampage at a college campus, killing dozens and makes national news as someone who's perpetrated the largest mass shooting in American history?KAYE (on camera): Fox says most college campus shooters are white males, acting alone, with at least one gun.Most, as in this latest case, don't live to read the papers the next day.KING: We'll have much more on the horrific massacre here on the campus of Virginia tech in the next hour of 360, including new information about the victims, the gunman, and more incredible stories from some of the students who survived the rampage.NEWS OR USE OUR SECURE ONLINE ORDER FORM LOCATED AT www.Terms under which this service is provided to you.
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